This is an important pro-legislative development seeing companies such as Pepsi or Coca-Cola being sued for deceiving the public about plastic recycling and the danger the plastic has been causing to probably every form of life on this planet. (Not to mention the products in these plastic bottles). There is hope that “ making the companies pay for the devastating harms… [will] open the door to real solutions that are currently out of reach” (The New Lede “ Plastic Industry engaged…”).
And there is also the case of Monsanto who did not properly warned its customers of the risks, such as cancer, posed by Roundup. The victims have the right for compensation as part of the settlement but at the same time, Monsanto is expending its market to developing and third world countries with “ modified” Roundup. I guess one case forward is a progress towards healthier environment and healthier life.
I just read a report in Scientific American about the study from Nature you mention in your preview about mice and the smell of cherry, and there is this statement:
Kerry Ressler, a neurobiologist and psychiatrist at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, and a co-author of the latest study, became interested in epigenetic inheritance after working with poor people living in inner cities, where cycles of drug addiction, neuropsychiatric illness and other problems often seem to recur in parents and their children. “There are a lot of anecdotes to suggest that there’s intergenerational transfer of risk, and that it’s hard to break that cycle,” he says.
That seems like he was looking for a result for social or political reasons before he did the experiment. Considering all the fraudulent studies that have been revealed over the last few years I wouldn't doubt that there could be fraud involved in this.
Perhaps Ressler had come across some anecdotes related to challenges of breaking intergenerational cycles in his research which had other than purely scientific agendas. Research costs money and tenure doesn’t come easy.
Social psychologists have attributed the above to learned helplessness as well as trauma bond.
Studies, some of which were done in the inner city of Chicago at least 10 yrs ego, have hypothesized that one of the reasons it’s difficult to break the cycles of poverty, domestic violence, substance abuse or crime is the familiarity to & normalization of living in them. It’s all some people and their family members have known. Many don’t see a way out. Change is scary, they fear the unknown. Even if individuals escape the known and give the healthier way and a new environment a few tries (mice are exposed to a smell of delicious cherries), they often fail to make a significant enough transition due to 1) a lack of skills necessary to live in an unfamiliar reality 2) they get hurt despite making a change, can’t make a living, can’t find a new social group and develop an adverse conditioning and give up (mice get electrocuted, develop fear of cherries). They learn they can’t help it. Following the logic of Ressler’s study, the gene of fear/ learned helplessness can be then passed to the next generations. But I understand how expression such as „ He/ she should had try it harder” , „ He/ She is lazy, etc.” can cross one’s mind and could be, in some cases, accurate.
Secondly, the concept of trauma bond is associated with cycles of abuse and periods of “ honey moon” in personal, work and even citizen-government relationships. This keeps people stuck & living in hope for a better time ignoring the present abuse. Remember the bonus money we received from the government ( honey moon) after we were locked in (abuse) and then pressured to get the jabs? (abuse). How about now? The current president is not capable of leading the country; logically, it’s a risk for the country and the citizens. Why people tolerate it against logic? Cognitive dissonance, epigenetics, learned helplessness, ignorance or new Netflix series?
Also, check out „ Body keeps the score” by Bessel van der Kolk to read more about the brain’s role, ability and limitations in breaking trauma/ intergenerational cycles.
I don't doubt a lot of that is true, but look who was creating those conditions, especially the pandemic, the lockdown, mandated vaccinations, the token government handouts which people are paying for multiple times over through inflation. What I was referring to was not whether the epigenetic expression is affected by such things as the experiment tried to show, but that there is a lot of fraud in scientific research, and in this case he "may" have cooked the books to achieve a result that would be politically popular, and also also add to his credentials. Here's a recent example of this going back over 20 years.
This is an important pro-legislative development seeing companies such as Pepsi or Coca-Cola being sued for deceiving the public about plastic recycling and the danger the plastic has been causing to probably every form of life on this planet. (Not to mention the products in these plastic bottles). There is hope that “ making the companies pay for the devastating harms… [will] open the door to real solutions that are currently out of reach” (The New Lede “ Plastic Industry engaged…”).
And there is also the case of Monsanto who did not properly warned its customers of the risks, such as cancer, posed by Roundup. The victims have the right for compensation as part of the settlement but at the same time, Monsanto is expending its market to developing and third world countries with “ modified” Roundup. I guess one case forward is a progress towards healthier environment and healthier life.
I just read a report in Scientific American about the study from Nature you mention in your preview about mice and the smell of cherry, and there is this statement:
Kerry Ressler, a neurobiologist and psychiatrist at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, and a co-author of the latest study, became interested in epigenetic inheritance after working with poor people living in inner cities, where cycles of drug addiction, neuropsychiatric illness and other problems often seem to recur in parents and their children. “There are a lot of anecdotes to suggest that there’s intergenerational transfer of risk, and that it’s hard to break that cycle,” he says.
That seems like he was looking for a result for social or political reasons before he did the experiment. Considering all the fraudulent studies that have been revealed over the last few years I wouldn't doubt that there could be fraud involved in this.
Clark,
Perhaps Ressler had come across some anecdotes related to challenges of breaking intergenerational cycles in his research which had other than purely scientific agendas. Research costs money and tenure doesn’t come easy.
Social psychologists have attributed the above to learned helplessness as well as trauma bond.
Studies, some of which were done in the inner city of Chicago at least 10 yrs ego, have hypothesized that one of the reasons it’s difficult to break the cycles of poverty, domestic violence, substance abuse or crime is the familiarity to & normalization of living in them. It’s all some people and their family members have known. Many don’t see a way out. Change is scary, they fear the unknown. Even if individuals escape the known and give the healthier way and a new environment a few tries (mice are exposed to a smell of delicious cherries), they often fail to make a significant enough transition due to 1) a lack of skills necessary to live in an unfamiliar reality 2) they get hurt despite making a change, can’t make a living, can’t find a new social group and develop an adverse conditioning and give up (mice get electrocuted, develop fear of cherries). They learn they can’t help it. Following the logic of Ressler’s study, the gene of fear/ learned helplessness can be then passed to the next generations. But I understand how expression such as „ He/ she should had try it harder” , „ He/ She is lazy, etc.” can cross one’s mind and could be, in some cases, accurate.
Secondly, the concept of trauma bond is associated with cycles of abuse and periods of “ honey moon” in personal, work and even citizen-government relationships. This keeps people stuck & living in hope for a better time ignoring the present abuse. Remember the bonus money we received from the government ( honey moon) after we were locked in (abuse) and then pressured to get the jabs? (abuse). How about now? The current president is not capable of leading the country; logically, it’s a risk for the country and the citizens. Why people tolerate it against logic? Cognitive dissonance, epigenetics, learned helplessness, ignorance or new Netflix series?
Also, check out „ Body keeps the score” by Bessel van der Kolk to read more about the brain’s role, ability and limitations in breaking trauma/ intergenerational cycles.
I don't doubt a lot of that is true, but look who was creating those conditions, especially the pandemic, the lockdown, mandated vaccinations, the token government handouts which people are paying for multiple times over through inflation. What I was referring to was not whether the epigenetic expression is affected by such things as the experiment tried to show, but that there is a lot of fraud in scientific research, and in this case he "may" have cooked the books to achieve a result that would be politically popular, and also also add to his credentials. Here's a recent example of this going back over 20 years.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-retracted-stem-cell-study-reveals-sciences-shortcomings/
I'd been hoping that the plastic in my penis might make it harder, but that hasn't proven to be the case...